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	<description>News about The Summit and Beyond...</description>
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		<title>Comment on Valerie Thomas: StarCaps, Congress and the CBA by Mike Landrum</title>
		<link>http://www.footballsummit.com/2009/11/starcaps-congress-cba/comment-page-1/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Landrum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have 3 credited seasons 1984 - 1986 and 3 knee surgeries ended my career. I found out recently that post-93 players are vested with 3 years. Why were we left out? How many guys like me are out there? Is this being talked about in next CBA?

Thx
Mike Landrum
Atlanta Falcons
1984 - 1986</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have 3 credited seasons 1984 &#8211; 1986 and 3 knee surgeries ended my career. I found out recently that post-93 players are vested with 3 years. Why were we left out? How many guys like me are out there? Is this being talked about in next CBA?</p>
<p>Thx<br />
Mike Landrum<br />
Atlanta Falcons<br />
1984 &#8211; 1986</p>
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		<title>Comment on Harry Carson on the Amen Clinics by Hear What Former NFL Players Are Saying About the Amen Clinics &#8211; Amen Clinics</title>
		<link>http://www.footballsummit.com/2009/09/harry-carson-on-the-amen-clinics/comment-page-1/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>Hear What Former NFL Players Are Saying About the Amen Clinics &#8211; Amen Clinics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The “I” Factor and NFL Retired Players by Valerie</title>
		<link>http://www.footballsummit.com/2009/10/i-factor-nfl-retired-players/comment-page-1/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally, the organizations who &lt;strong&gt;can&lt;/strong&gt; make a difference mostly care about their PR Images.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally, the organizations who can make a difference mostly care about their PR Images.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Harry Carson on the Amen Clinics by Hear What Former NFL Players Are Saying About the Amen Clinics &#171; Dr. Sponaugle&#39;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.footballsummit.com/2009/09/harry-carson-on-the-amen-clinics/comment-page-1/#comment-243</link>
		<dc:creator>Hear What Former NFL Players Are Saying About the Amen Clinics &#171; Dr. Sponaugle&#39;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on An Announcement from Bob Grant by Brandi Winans</title>
		<link>http://www.footballsummit.com/2009/08/an-announcement-from-bob-grant/comment-page-1/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandi Winans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.facebook.com/profile/pic.php?uid=AAAAAQAQyPKRBPoZmsxHLWq3lDpwkwAAAApKHDvk4tP9aYZAA4pRNlk1&quot; alt=&quot;Brandi Winans&quot; /&gt;
Great commentary Bob...Together we are one...

Brandi Winans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great commentary Bob&#8230;Together we are one&#8230;</p>
<p>Brandi Winans</p>
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		<title>Comment on An Announcement from Bob Grant by MIKE CURTIS</title>
		<link>http://www.footballsummit.com/2009/08/an-announcement-from-bob-grant/comment-page-1/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>MIKE CURTIS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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Bob,

Good to hear from you.

Mike Curtis
1965 - 1978
Baltimore Colts, Seattle Seahawks, Washington Redskins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>Good to hear from you.</p>
<p>Mike Curtis<br />
1965 &#8211; 1978<br />
Baltimore Colts, Seattle Seahawks, Washington Redskins</p>
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		<title>Comment on Time Out by Brandi Winans</title>
		<link>http://www.footballsummit.com/2009/07/time-out/comment-page-1/#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandi Winans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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Thank you Robert for all of your hard work in putting this website together and for Dave, Marvin, Bob and Jane, for all the hours of your time and effort to make this happen.

Enjoy the rest of your summer.

Luv &#039;n Hugs Blessings,
Brandi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Robert for all of your hard work in putting this website together and for Dave, Marvin, Bob and Jane, for all the hours of your time and effort to make this happen.</p>
<p>Enjoy the rest of your summer.</p>
<p>Luv &#8216;n Hugs Blessings,<br />
Brandi</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Summit Plans for 2010 by Brandi Winans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandi Winans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 16:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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Hey Guys, let me know how I can help with the next summit.

Also any word on the caretakers video? I would love to get a copy. or a copy of The Summit.

Luv &#039;n Hugs
Brandi Winans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Guys, let me know how I can help with the next summit.</p>
<p>Also any word on the caretakers video? I would love to get a copy. or a copy of The Summit.</p>
<p>Luv &#8216;n Hugs<br />
Brandi Winans</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jane Arnett&#8217;s Observations So Far by FREDERICK  'RICK'   HAYES</title>
		<link>http://www.footballsummit.com/2009/06/jane-arnetts-observations-so-far/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>FREDERICK  'RICK'   HAYES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aloha Summit &amp; IRP Members:

I am inspired in reading the above postings. I missed the Las Vegas Summit due to my father&#039;s admission to a hospice facility in Phoenix during the same time period. I have done my best to &#039;ketchup&#039; by reading Dave Pear&#039;s and others blogs and postings. I congratulate all that placed their time and effort in this needed conference.

Recently, I reached out for assistance to attend to my father in Phoenix. Although there were some initial harsh feelings expressed between myself and the president of &quot;Gridiron Greats,&quot; they eventually were gracious enough to assist me with a plane flight from Kauai to Phoenix. One classification criteria that arose again, as has with NFL Alumni, was the divisive reasoning of separating assistance for retired players by the so-called &quot;Three Year Rule.&quot; I can see no better example of the means and ways the powers-that-may-be to create friction and division amongst retired players than by creating a &quot;rule&quot; that separates us by basically a criteria of when we were injured while playing our sport. We all know that we were always one play away from the operating room. To discriminate against those of us who failed to play three years is similar to the owners&#039; strategic &#039;length of play&#039; for pensions, in comparison to the average players&#039; length of service.

Another &quot;rule&quot; the NFL Alumni initiated and cited for not granting me medical assistance was that a player had to play in 5 consecutive games in order to qualify. Where did this rule come from? I received a hateful letter from the NFL League office&#039;s acting attorney demeaning my playing time for this factor. I need to post the letter to verify the hate that evolves from the NFL’s New York office&#039;s hired gun’s letter. It borders on disbarment action for moral turpitude for this particular attorney that I’m considering pursuing. It also represents how closely in bed the NFL Alumni and the owners truly exist.

I am aware that Bob Grant is strongly in favor of eliminating these petty rules that were presented by the owners. Their only motivation is to create discrimination, demean and spark friction among the retired players. For these reasons, I was encouraged to read the above postings about their attempts to bring us together as a whole, rather than create 20 splinter organizations.

Personal regards, with Mahalo
Frederick ‘Rick’ Hayes
LA Rams – 1974</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloha Summit &#038; IRP Members:</p>
<p>I am inspired in reading the above postings. I missed the Las Vegas Summit due to my father&#8217;s admission to a hospice facility in Phoenix during the same time period. I have done my best to &#8216;ketchup&#8217; by reading Dave Pear&#8217;s and others blogs and postings. I congratulate all that placed their time and effort in this needed conference.</p>
<p>Recently, I reached out for assistance to attend to my father in Phoenix. Although there were some initial harsh feelings expressed between myself and the president of &#8220;Gridiron Greats,&#8221; they eventually were gracious enough to assist me with a plane flight from Kauai to Phoenix. One classification criteria that arose again, as has with NFL Alumni, was the divisive reasoning of separating assistance for retired players by the so-called &#8220;Three Year Rule.&#8221; I can see no better example of the means and ways the powers-that-may-be to create friction and division amongst retired players than by creating a &#8220;rule&#8221; that separates us by basically a criteria of when we were injured while playing our sport. We all know that we were always one play away from the operating room. To discriminate against those of us who failed to play three years is similar to the owners&#8217; strategic &#8216;length of play&#8217; for pensions, in comparison to the average players&#8217; length of service.</p>
<p>Another &#8220;rule&#8221; the NFL Alumni initiated and cited for not granting me medical assistance was that a player had to play in 5 consecutive games in order to qualify. Where did this rule come from? I received a hateful letter from the NFL League office&#8217;s acting attorney demeaning my playing time for this factor. I need to post the letter to verify the hate that evolves from the NFL’s New York office&#8217;s hired gun’s letter. It borders on disbarment action for moral turpitude for this particular attorney that I’m considering pursuing. It also represents how closely in bed the NFL Alumni and the owners truly exist.</p>
<p>I am aware that Bob Grant is strongly in favor of eliminating these petty rules that were presented by the owners. Their only motivation is to create discrimination, demean and spark friction among the retired players. For these reasons, I was encouraged to read the above postings about their attempts to bring us together as a whole, rather than create 20 splinter organizations.</p>
<p>Personal regards, with Mahalo<br />
Frederick ‘Rick’ Hayes<br />
LA Rams – 1974</p>
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		<title>Comment on Some Discussion Topics from Michael Silver by Bob Grant</title>
		<link>http://www.footballsummit.com/2009/06/some-discussion-topics-from-michael-silver/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.davepear.com/images/BobGrantphoto.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Bob Grant&quot; /&gt;
A couple of months before the Summit I started talks with a group of retired players on some of the very issues that Michael discusses here. Problems don&#039;t go away because you pretend that they don&#039;t exist.

Included in the group that I have met with are Marvin Cobb, Lee White, Reggie Berry and Carver Shannon while Dave Pear and Robert Lee have participated via telephone.

In the coming weeks, we&#039;ll be unveiling some plans to start work on bridging the racial divide and the generation gap that has hindered the development of relationships and understanding between Retired Players and Active Players.

Just as there some who told Marvin and me that the Summit was an impossible undertaking, I&#039;m sure that there are many who will say we&#039;re planning is also an impossible undertaking. We will see.

Bob Grant
Free and Independent Retired Player Advocate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of months before the Summit I started talks with a group of retired players on some of the very issues that Michael discusses here. Problems don&#8217;t go away because you pretend that they don&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>Included in the group that I have met with are Marvin Cobb, Lee White, Reggie Berry and Carver Shannon while Dave Pear and Robert Lee have participated via telephone.</p>
<p>In the coming weeks, we&#8217;ll be unveiling some plans to start work on bridging the racial divide and the generation gap that has hindered the development of relationships and understanding between Retired Players and Active Players.</p>
<p>Just as there some who told Marvin and me that the Summit was an impossible undertaking, I&#8217;m sure that there are many who will say we&#8217;re planning is also an impossible undertaking. We will see.</p>
<p>Bob Grant<br />
Free and Independent Retired Player Advocate</p>
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